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Shaping Kurald Thyrllan
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3/1/2010 2:25:12 AM
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The cover for The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson.
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/1/2010 6:29:13 AM
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http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=blog&id=58815
Here is a link to Tor's site and the blog goes into a lot of depth as well as having some alternate sketches that Whelan did.
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Militant Conservative Bad@ss
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/2/2010 4:03:33 AM
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It looks ok.
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/2/2010 6:22:19 AM
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Better than most Wheel of Time covers. =P (Or is that every?)Sanderson already has me set to buy every fantasy book he puts out, so I'm looking forward to this.
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/3/2010 4:22:17 AM
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Oh, me to. Don't get me wrong. I don't care what his covers look like. For example, the initial Mistborn covers (and even the newer ones) were pretty un-pretty - but I gobbled up that story.
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Shaping Kurald Thyrllan
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/16/2010 7:42:29 AM
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Sanderson spills some beans on The Way of Kings:
My editor, bless his heart, compared THE WAY OF KINGS to DUNE and LORD OF THE RINGS in the catalogue copy that he wrote. He’s a wonderful man, but I cringe when any new book is compared to masterworks like those. DUNE and LotR have proven themselves over decades, passing the test of time. They had monumental influences on their respective genres.
No new novel has the right to claim such a comparison out of the gate. If you go into KINGS expecting the next LORD OF THE RINGS or DUNE, you will be disappointed. I am not Tolkien or Herbert. I am what I am—a largely unproven writer still in the early days of his career.
Early in my drafting process for this book, I fell into some traps by putting too much weight upon the future of this novel. I began to think that KINGS would be the book that would define my solo career, and I began to worry (with all of the recent eyes that have been watching me) that this book needed to be something incredibly jaw-dropping and earth-shattering, otherwise it would be a failure.
That’s a bad way to be thinking as you write a book, and probably an even worse way to be thinking as you start reading a book. The Wheel of Time didn’t start to really make its mark until book three or four; it was the same for Harry Potter. Series like this take time to build. Beyond that, you can’t go into a series with the mind-set that it needs to be a huge blockbuster to be successful.
I’m not sure what I want people to think about this book. I want them to read it, enjoy it, and say nice things about it. I want them to anticipate it and talk about it on blogs, waiting for the day it is released. But in the end, it’s just a book. Let’s not hype this thing to death.
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/18/2010 12:33:10 PM
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I like the humilty.
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la la la la la la
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/21/2010 11:04:07 AM
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Back when I first joined this forum and was somewhat arrogant in how I viewed the fantasy genre I held up my nose at Robert Jordan. I did this without having ever read a single one of his books.
A few years back I picked up the first book and I was unable to read beyond the first 100 pages.
One of my best friend's boyfriend bought me the first two books in the Wheel of Time as a Christmas gift and so I took it as a sign that life wanted me to read these books. Jordan consistently shows up in my life in weird places.
I'm almost done the first novel and I'm enjoying it. I'm not sure why though.
The book is standard kitchen-boy fantasy. For those not familiar with that particular description/genre, I found a blogger over at the New Yorker that summed it up perfectly: This is the stereotypical epic fantasy that begins with a young, inexperienced, immature youth toiling away as a kitchen boy in a castle, daydreaming his life away. Outside of his limited range of experience, events are taking place that will turn his entire world upside down, and somehow this young boy becomes the key to preventing the end of life as he knows it.
Read more: Kitchen Boy
I'm not surprised by any of the plot developments that are occurring in this first book of the series, and yet I'm compelled to read because it is written so well. It reminds me of David Eddings's Belgariad, except written much better.
I surprise myself by how much I'm enjoying this particular read, especially since I put it down for so long. It's easy to put down an author and not blink an eye. I am constantly reminded by the writers/authors on this board though, that it is a difficult thing to do.
Look at that world, I've matured when it comes to my criticism. Cheers.
"Cats and monkeys, monkeys and cats, all human life is there!" - Henry James
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It is true: Man IS the microcosm: I am my world.
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/22/2010 11:57:11 AM
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I'm compelled to read because it is written so well
I'm happy to hear you say as much because I'm a big proponent of Jordan's writing ability This is why I not only do not dislike the later tangents in the plot and heavy character development, but enjoy them.
"************ set itself the goal of fulfilling man’s unattainable desires, but for that very reason ignored his attainable desires. By promising man eternal life, it deprived him of temporal life, by teaching him to trust in God’s help it took away his trust in his own powers; by giving him faith in a better life in heaven, it destroyed his faith in a better life on earth and his striving to attain such a life. ************ gave man what his imagination desires, but for that very reason failed to give him what he really and truly desires."
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/22/2010 12:03:49 PM
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I'm just pages away from finishing off this first book in the series. The ending of this book is finally paying off, because the plot was a bit plodding early on and as I've said, rather formulaic.
I enjoy the way it is written and that is what will push me to read into the next book in the series.
I've also been told by many people that Rand becomes far less annoying as he grows into his character. One can hope, cheers.
"Cats and monkeys, monkeys and cats, all human life is there!" - Henry James
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When Cameron was in Egypt land, let my Cameron go
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/22/2010 1:11:01 PM
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I think he becomes less annoying, but the women, all the women, more than pick up his slack.
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/22/2010 1:46:33 PM
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Yes, this is definitely not an enlightened progressive feminist view of women.
They tend to be harping or complaining or really good at healing someone's wounds.
"Cats and monkeys, monkeys and cats, all human life is there!" - Henry James
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It is true: Man IS the microcosm: I am my world.
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/23/2010 1:37:52 PM
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I think he becomes less annoying, but the women, all the women, more than pick up his slack.
Couldn't agree more.
Nah, Fiz, I soon find that they become too strong 
"************ set itself the goal of fulfilling man’s unattainable desires, but for that very reason ignored his attainable desires. By promising man eternal life, it deprived him of temporal life, by teaching him to trust in God’s help it took away his trust in his own powers; by giving him faith in a better life in heaven, it destroyed his faith in a better life on earth and his striving to attain such a life. ************ gave man what his imagination desires, but for that very reason failed to give him what he really and truly desires."
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/23/2010 5:39:41 PM
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I never hated *all* the women. There were two that come to mind that I specifically always loved. And one that loved, then got fed up with, then am kinda indifferent about. And a couple others that I usually felt pretty good about.
And about RJ's writing... maybe I need a second look? After I was introduced to Martin from this forum, I saw how lacking RJ was. But maybe it's simply a bit too excessive on description at times, and a lack of clear structure in the middle stretch, and not actually the writing that I found lacking (but still got every book on release day. I never gave up on the series or anything.)
Sanderson for the most part took the great characters and world that RJ created and really tightened up the story. I know it's the end point now, and threads are coming together so it was easier than books 7-10, but I doubt RJ would have structured The Gathering Storm the way it is.
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/24/2010 7:39:55 PM
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I am on book 4 great read and it is my first time to read it....
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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3/25/2010 10:22:10 AM
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Oh, I should mention that when I said his writing was lacking, I guess that is relative to Martin. I've of course read other authors that are much worse. And even the worst of the Wheel of Time series had excellent chapters to it.
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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4/10/2010 1:18:52 PM
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I've only read the first WOT time, but it was good.
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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6/28/2010 12:42:47 PM
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Since the GRRM topic has encountered a re-birth and some angst as well, I figured it's probably a good counterpoint to have news from Sanderson as he's about to finish Towers of Midnight.
From Sanderson's Twitter account:
Ladies and Gentlemen, I have begun writing the final chapter for Towers of Midnight. Expect an "It's done" post later today.
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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6/28/2010 12:52:09 PM
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I think the first human being on the planet to be cloned should be Brandon Sanderson. 
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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6/28/2010 2:01:04 PM
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I absolutely concur. Let's see....he:
- Writes his own fairly large, complex novels
- has a YA series
- constantly updates his blog/twitter/facebook (although not as frequently lately as he was finishing up Towers of Midnight). Yes he does have an assistant who probably helps out with this a lot more than they let on though.
- Tours
- Plugs other others, ventures and associated merchandise
- Plays Magic: The Gathering tournaments
- Has time to wrap up someone else's massive series as well.
Does he spend ANY time with his family?
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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6/28/2010 7:15:38 PM
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And as promised.....
Per Twitter:
And...it is DONE! 359,000 words, 1800 pages in manuscript form. Nobody tell Tor. They asked me to try to keep it shorter. WHOOPS.
Note that I'm mostly joking about the length. Tor does prefer books shorter than 400k, but the've always let me write as long as needed.
And, just to warn you all, I WILL do my standard 10% cut on this book. So expect the final length to be around 320k or so. (TGS was 300k.)
Either way, the first draft of Towers of Midnight is done. We are now confirmed for an on-time release late October or Early November 2010.
And now...I must find some Magic cards to open as a reward.
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6/28/2010 10:38:12 PM
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good news
Champagne for my real friends and real pain for my sham friends.
Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women!
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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6/29/2010 1:09:08 PM
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FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series
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6/29/2010 3:16:35 PM
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Woo! I can't wait!
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Yesterday @ 4:29 AM
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I have just read Gathering storm and I was very impressed with Mr. Sanderson’s writing, certainly a new breath of life into what was turning into a very overcomplicated and boring series.
Just before I read TGS, I read “New spring” as I hadn’t read it before and now wish I hadn’t bothered, for those of you who haven’t read it all that really happens is Moiraine buys some pretty dresses.
I think Sanderson has done an excellent job with the mess he was left with to sort out by Jordan. He has kept the characters true to form but there are a few changes for the better. The women still think men are incompetent idiots that need their hands held at all times, but thankfully gone is most of the talk of dresses , who loves Brand the most and thank the light Nynaeve only tugged on her braid once in the whole book, not 976 times like before.
I know the book mostly focuses on Rand and Egwene but the whole book flowed a lot better than Mr.Jordans last few in this series and I know Jordan said before he died that he would finish off WOT in one book even if it was the size of a house but I think what Sanderson covered in this book would have taken Jordan at least 3 books by the time you add in all the women talk, braid tugging and the detailed explanation of every item of clothing worn by every character.
I have never read anything else by Sanderson but I will certainly start checking out his stuff from now on, and, I actually am looking forward to the next WOT book.

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